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    I'm new here so please forgive me if someone has already done this. I haven't quite worked out how to navigate my way round here yet.

    I just thought it would be nice to swap a few self trim ideas, as thats the main reason I joined.

    Here's what I normally do: I part my hair down the middle and bring it over each shoulder. Then I tilt my head back as far as possible and secure each side with an elastic. With my head still tilted back I pull both elastics down to the same level against my chest. Then I can return my head to normal because all the hair is secured in the right place. I trim a few milimetres to an inch off the end of each ponytail, compare both, then release. Turns out great everytime, and so easy. I think its very similar to Feye's method - I've seen Feye mentioned here so I expect some of you know who I mean? Tilting my head back makes the v more subtle than if my head is in a normal position. Does anyone else use a method like this?

    Here's another one I used to do: I would again part my hair in the middle and bring it round the front over each shoulder. Then I would tie it all at my throat and cut straight across against my chest. This would give even more of a v shape at the back. sometimes I would get rid of the point by tying a ponytail at the nape of my neck, tying another elastic at the ends, then bringing it round the front and snipping the end off. Or sometimes I would not bother with the elastics, and just look at the back using two mirrors, grab the point, bring it round to the front and snip it.

    Anyone else do the ponytail at throat method?

    I've tried so many times to do the straight across cut, just like Feye's (even before I discovered Feye's instructions) where you tie a ponytail at the nape, pull the band down to the ends and then cut the end of the ponytail. For some reason this never seems to work for me but I would sooooo like it to. I always get a really bad inverted u. Why? I've even read that tilting your head forward while you pull the elastic down will prevent this but for me it just makes it worse! It means having to cut a lot off the sides to correct it. Any ideas? Who else uses this method and how do you avoid the inverted u?

    Anyway, I always get absolutely perfect results with the slight v shape, so I'm sticking with that until I can figure out what is going wrong with the straight across cut.

    I would love to hear ideas, tips, unusual methods. Thanks in advance.

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    Forgot to say I would also like to hear what kinds of results you get, which methods do you find easiest, what shape do you like etc. So just a general discussion on self trims really.

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    I'm glad you posted this! I was pondering self trims recently myself. I've not tried it yet but think it would be the best option for me in the future. My concerns are, also, getting an even, straight-across cut as well as how to get an even result with thick hair...my scissors would just squish down a round nub of hair and ruin the straightness if I hacked at it all at once. Should I do it in smaller sections, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenn of Pence View Post
    I'm glad you posted this! I was pondering self trims recently myself. I've not tried it yet but think it would be the best option for me in the future. My concerns are, also, getting an even, straight-across cut as well as how to get an even result with thick hair...my scissors would just squish down a round nub of hair and ruin the straightness if I hacked at it all at once. Should I do it in smaller sections, then?
    I understand what you're saying. When I used to cut my hair by gathering it all in one bunch it was more difficult but I made it in the end. The way I do it now, dividing it into two ponytails, makes a huge difference and makes it much easier to control. I still don't cut it all at once (what's gathered in each ponytail) but rather keep making small snips until its all the same. My hair is fine though and that may make handling different from your hair (even though I have quite a lot of it). Maybe four ponytails would work for you? (two on each side over each shoulder).

    I hope you and other potential self trimmers will find this thread useful.

    Eagerly awaiting more ideas.
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    Actually, for the straight across cut I was wondering myself about making four ponytails at the base of the neck behind the shoulders rather than in front against the chest, and pulling all four elastics down to the same level at the back and cutting the same amount off each one. Would this work? Has anyone done this? Or would this just give four inverted U s?! Like my experience of one ponytail at the back giving one inverted U. At least with one inverted U you can correct it by shortening the sides. Not sure how I would correct 4 inverted U s. Wow the v shape is so much easier for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestnut View Post
    I've tried so many times to do the straight across cut, just like Feye's (even before I discovered Feye's instructions) where you tie a ponytail at the nape, pull the band down to the ends and then cut the end of the ponytail. For some reason this never seems to work for me but I would sooooo like it to. I always get a really bad inverted u. Why? I've even read that tilting your head forward while you pull the elastic down will prevent this but for me it just makes it worse! It means having to cut a lot off the sides to correct it. Any ideas? Who else uses this method and how do you avoid the inverted u?
    I've been using the U-Shape Feye's Method for coming on 2 years now. I tried the Straight Across for a few months in there, but I just didn't like the way it looked on me. I did not have any problems (with either shape) coming up inverted. When you say "tilting your head forward", are you tilting or looking down? I look down to the point that my chin is kept on my chest until the scrunchie has been pulled all the way down. The Hub has to pull my scrunchie down for me though, otherwise I mess everything up half the time contorting to grab the scrunchie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clichepithet View Post
    I've been using the U-Shape Feye's Method for coming on 2 years now. I tried the Straight Across for a few months in there, but I just didn't like the way it looked on me. I did not have any problems (with either shape) coming up inverted. When you say "tilting your head forward", are you tilting or looking down? I look down to the point that my chin is kept on my chest until the scrunchie has been pulled all the way down. The Hub has to pull my scrunchie down for me though, otherwise I mess everything up half the time contorting to grab the scrunchie.
    Yes I was trying to look down, chin against chest, but as you said perhaps I was messing it up by contorting to pull it down and ended up lifting my chin and tilting my head back without realising it. Perhaps that would explain the inverted u. Thanks for the input.

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    Feye's method doesn't work for me either . . . I also end up with the inverted U. Plus my hair is super slippery and the elastic often slides right off the end (>(oo)<)`

    Perhaps you'll have better luck with Piggy's self-trimming strategy (^(oo)^)v

    What you'll need:

    • 2 wall or floor mirrors (so both hands are free), positioned so you can see your back clearly
    • duckbill clips - I like the 4.5" Marianna extra strength control clips; standard 3.5" ones will work too
    • hair shears


    1. Standing between the 2 mirrors, arrange and smooth all of your hair evenly behind your shoulders
    2. Keeping your head level and making sure the hair is hanging straight down your back, gently secure a duckbill clip to the outermost 3" or so of hair on one side. The clip should be placed parallel to the floor, slightly above your desired length.
    3. Repeat with another duckbill clip on the other side.
    4. At this point all of your hair should still be behind your back. 3" sections on both left and right should be secured in duckbill clips. Check to make sure that all the hair, both clipped and loose, is still hanging straight down - if the hair in the clips looks bunched together at all, remove the clip and try clipping a smaller amount of hair.
    5. Bring both clipped sections to the front and trim parallel to the clip.
    6. When both sides look even. put them behind your shoulders again and release the clips. Moving towards the center, catch another 3" section of hair in the clip. Make sure your new section includes a bit of the previous one. Again, the clip should be parallel to the floor and the clipped hair should be hanging straight down.
    7. Bring the clipped section to the front. Trim to match the length of the already-trimmed portion from the previous section.
    8. Repeat steps 6-7, alternating sides to eventually meet in the middle. As long as your initial sections were the same length, your clips were parallel to the floor, and your ends were trimmed parallel to the clips, you should end up with a level, straight-across hemline when you're done:



    I'll take some pics later of the steps - piggies are kind of bad at describing things sometimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by (^(oo)^) View Post
    Feye's method doesn't work for me either . . . I also end up with the inverted U. Plus my hair is super slippery and the elastic often slides right off the end (>(oo)<)`

    Perhaps you'll have better luck with Piggy's self-trimming strategy (^(oo)^)v

    What you'll need:

    • 2 wall or floor mirrors (so both hands are free), positioned so you can see your back clearly
    • duckbill clips - I like the 4.5" Marianna extra strength control clips; standard 3.5" ones will work too
    • hair shears


    1. Standing between the 2 mirrors, arrange and smooth all of your hair evenly behind your shoulders
    2. Keeping your head level and making sure the hair is hanging straight down your back, gently secure a duckbill clip to the outermost 3" or so of hair on one side. The clip should be placed parallel to the floor, slightly above your desired length.
    3. Repeat with another duckbill clip on the other side.
    4. At this point all of your hair should still be behind your back. 3" sections on both left and right should be secured in duckbill clips. Check to make sure that all the hair, both clipped and loose, is still hanging straight down - if the hair in the clips looks bunched together at all, remove the clip and try clipping a smaller amount of hair.
    5. Bring both clipped sections to the front and trim parallel to the clip.
    6. When both sides look even. put them behind your shoulders again and release the clips. Moving towards the center, catch another 3" section of hair in the clip. Make sure your new section includes a bit of the previous one. Again, the clip should be parallel to the floor and the clipped hair should be hanging straight down.
    7. Bring the clipped section to the front. Trim to match the length of the already-trimmed portion from the previous section.
    8. Repeat steps 6-7, alternating sides to eventually meet in the middle. As long as your initial sections were the same length, your clips were parallel to the floor, and your ends were trimmed parallel to the clips, you should end up with a level, straight-across hemline when you're done:



    I'll take some pics later of the steps - piggies are kind of bad at describing things sometimes
    This is a great description, very clear to me. Sounds like a really good method to try, thanks for the input.

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    Great topic! I've cut my own hair for years. I also cut DH's and on occasion my sisters and nieces hair. It's easier to do it on someone else though! For myself I've never really done more than just the hemline and some face framing layers and bangs.

    But right now I'm playing with an idea to do long layers on myself. There are several ways to cut your own layers on youtube but the one I'm thinking of is the old school hairdresser one where you make a ponytail on top of your head, pull the scrunchie up and then cut straight across.

    I'm thinking of doing a modified version because I want long layers with the shortest layer at least shoulder length but preferably a little lower. My idea was that if I make a ponytail on top of my head and pull that up and back at an angle instead of straight up and then cut it, the layers should come out longer.

    I don't really want to lose length but I recently discovered I have curls/wurls but the length at the back of my head is pulling them down and I would like to take some weight off them so they show up more and are easier to style. After the initial cut I plan on washing, styling as usual and then cutting the individual curls where they need it and recruiting DH to help me with the parts where I can't really see what I'm doing. I know this is a method that is frequently used on curlies and I've actually used it myself on the front sections so I'm not too worried about that part but I am a bit insecure about the layering.

    I feels like I'm missing something obvious but I'm not sure what that might be. I did a dry run by putting my hair in that ponytail and pulling it out and then grabbing different sections right below the band and checking where it would fall on my body and it seemed alright... but I don't want to end up with inverted U shaped layers! lol

    I also still want to be able to do updo's afterwards which means the shortest layers cannot be shorter than a bit above APL. That way I should still be able to a decent french twist or lazy wrap bun. I don't mind a messy bun but it has to be able to stay up with sticks.

    Some things I'm still not sure about and would like some feedback on:
    1. Would that angle work in producing long layers and not result in a weird shape?

    2. Cut it in it's curly state or would it be better to wash, and let it dry reasonably straight?
    On one hand, cutting it when it's straightish might give a more even and balanced result. On the other hand curly hair isn't even. Some sections curl more than others and cutting it in it's curly state might give a better end result. Then again, I plan on cutting individual curls afterwards to accentuate them where they fall naturally and I could always even things out then if some parts end up uneven with a straight cut. And of course wurly/curly hair is very forgiving when it comes to uneven cuts...

    Anyone care to weigh in on this one?

    I'd invoke the two week rule (say it now, think about it for two weeks and if I still feel that way then I'd go ahead with the cut) but I'm not sure if I want to wait two weeks. I'm loving wearing my hair curly ever since I discovered I had curly hair and the straighter back portion has been frustrating me. I also love what the curls are doing for me in updo's. No more mean-lady-face! There is 'stuff' happening all over my head and it suits my face. It makes me really happy to see those unruly curls every time I catch a glimpse of my reflection.
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